Friday, May 05, 2006
Oprah or Osteen
OK... it's Friday... time to play Oprah or Osteen, courtesy of The Wittenburg Door.
These quotes were taken either from Joel Osteen's blockbuster bestseller "Your Best Life Now" (and the accompanying study guide) or Marcia Z. Nelson's insightful analysis of Oprah's philosophy in her book, "The Gospel According to Oprah." See if you can guess if the pastor of the largest church in the US or America's favorite guru uttered a particular quote.
1. The first step to living at your full potential is to enlarge your vision.
2. If you develop a vision of victory, success, health, abundance, joy, peace and happiness, nothing on earth will be able to hold these things from you.
3. Live your best life.
4. You must concieve it in your heart and mind before you can receive it.
5. I have been beyond blessed.
6. Every day I pass the front of my house, I sing, "Jesus Loves Me."
7. Thank you. Two words that can make miracles
8. We have to conceive it on the inside before we're ever going to receive it on the outside.
9. Today is the only day we have. We can't do anything about the past, and we don't know what the future holds. But we can live at our full potential right now.
10. The expression of your feelings is like magic.
[Todd's note: I don't find this particularly funny as in ha-ha funny... it's actually rather sad. That said... take the quiz, and let me know how you do. The answers will be below...]
Joel Osteen's quotes are 1,2,4,8, and 9
Oprah's quotes are 3,5,6,7 and 10
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Actually I did pretty good, being an Oprah fan and all. Hers is short sweet and to the point. I figured the rest of the gobblygook was Joel's. Have agreat day y'all
Posted by: Jay Gainer | May 5, 2006 10:30:55 AM
Without ever having seen a complete Oprah or Osteen show I scored amazingly well. I only got two wrong. I'm not so sure that's something to be proud of.
Posted by: Abbey | May 5, 2006 10:34:18 AM
No fan of either of them, but I got 60%. The scary thing was when I found myself saying, "Does that sound biblical? Must be Oprah."
Posted by: Randy Ehle | May 5, 2006 11:23:43 AM
I got them all correct....and I'm amazed at that...
Well, Joel and Oprah...
While we are complaining about them, we can give some other "personality-plus" guru a rest.
Posted by: Phil Hoover-Chicago | May 5, 2006 1:48:23 PM
I didn't score all that well, but I still feel all queasy inside.
Posted by: Kent | May 5, 2006 1:58:34 PM
Are you sure you have the answers correct? ;-)
His quotes seems more like what you'd see in the new-age self-help section. Hers seem more like a Pastor. I'm not a fan of either.
Posted by: DanielR | May 5, 2006 2:58:16 PM
gee wilker's wally I only missed 2 questions... I like both of them... Joel is one of the best preachers on T.V. I believe he has a real heart for God..
As for Oprah... Sees the cutest thing...
Posted by: Clairvoyant 1 | May 5, 2006 9:31:53 PM
I think it is sad when you can't tell a preacher form a talk show host. I have watched Oprah in the past, and although she used to attend a Baptist church, she has also been noted to have mentioned channeling characters she has played and other new age ideas. If as many people went to churc or watched religious programs as they do Oprah, our society might be better off. People wouldn't get their theology from a talk show host who is PC, but instead they would get it from the Bible! I notice she has never used the Bible in her bookclub!
Posted by: christyo73 | May 6, 2006 10:33:51 PM
I got them all right. I'm not sure what you think doesn't line up with the bible. Joel is doing somrthing right. I'm not a big TV preacher watcher, but I have listened to Joel. If you are looking and listening to find fault, you always can, as is true with anything. Do your thing and let Joel do his, maybe we will reach the world. The one thing the body of Christ doesn't need is us knocking each other down, if you think there's a problem, pray for them, but if we are as busy as we should be doing our work for God we won't have so much time for fault finding.
Posted by: sd | May 7, 2006 10:15:02 AM
At first I was not going to take the quiz because I didn't see the relevance of it. (I did take it and got 8 of 10 correct) I see nothing intrinsically wrong with any of these statements. All of these statements seem to reflect truth and a good attitude.
Without taking sides or revealing how I feel about either of these people, I can still tell you this: truth is truth whether it is expressed by Joel or Oprah. God even manages to use you, me and Balaam's donkey to get His message across.
So what conclusion do we draw from this? That TV preachers have watered things down to where they sound just like any other pop-psych / positive thinking guru (guri? gurus? What is the plural of guru?), or that if you embrace truth and keep a good attitude you can be successful and impact the culture at large?
Living your life by God's laws can bring you a certain amount of success, even if a person does not embrace Jesus as Savior. Of course, as Christians, we owe it to everyone to emphasize the Gospel first above all other aspects of truth. Hopefully we will always both boldly present the Gospel and remember to give people instruction on how to apply God's principals in their everyday life. Some preachers seem to be better at one than the other. Maybe some get out of balance, but maybe we all balance each other out in the end.
Posted by: Todd - Not That Todd | May 8, 2006 11:46:10 AM
It is difficult for me to come to any real conclusions about Joel or Oprah, based on a few quotes taken out of context. The 10 quotes seem to miss the point of Jesus (I am the vine, you are the branches...kind of stuff.). I do wonder if Joel and Oprah's definitions of success or "your best life now" are Biblical. However, if I'm not willing to read thier books fully to find out, I guess I can't be too hard on them.
I do think it is time we drop this whole, "If someone has a lot of people in their church or audience, they must be doing something right" thing. There will come a time when people do not put up with sound doctrine or teaching, but rather want to have their ears tickled...I think Peter wrote that. Maybe that time is now?
Posted by: Michael | May 8, 2006 12:35:01 PM
Stop hating on Osteen!
This whole thing was bent to make him look like he "new agey." I have been to his church on many occasions and this was not a fair representation of his ministry at all!
I expect better from you guys! You disapoint on this monday!
Posted by: Fluitt | May 8, 2006 12:54:16 PM
I really don't want Joel's church, but I do want Joel's hair! Is that wrong, man he has a good head of hair! I would even settle for half of it! (:-)
Posted by: Pastor Al | May 8, 2006 1:27:17 PM
You don't want his hair, really... Consider if you will Leviticus 13:40.
"When a man has lost his hair and is bald, he is clean." NIV
Posted by: Peter Hamm | May 9, 2006 9:32:42 PM
Thanks Peter! It is good when a brother speaks it straight! I guess I am not "perfectly clean" yet, still have a few hairs to go! :-)
Posted by: Al | May 9, 2006 10:06:08 PM
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